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My diet, help please

Tommer — GMT

Im 18 about 70kg and around 5ft10. Curious about my diet so im going to post it here, Im doing my leaving cert this year so i dont have that much time for a big body building diet/workout program. Im looking to tighten up pretty much and get a bit bigger, not huge as of yet though. at the moment my diet is like this: Breakfast: about 50g of porridge with honey and a banana mixed into it. meal 2: either a large orange or 2 mandarines, a banana, a nutrigrain and about 30g of a mix of almonds and peanuts. Lunch: usually wholewheat pasta with tomato sauce, sometimes with a tin of tuna mixed in. sometimes a salad of rocket tomatoes red onion lettuce and grated carrot, followed by 2 table spoons of peanut butter. cup of tea Dinner: What ever is cooked in the house, usually chicken or beef with plenty of vegies. Usually dont eat anythin else for the rest of the day. Pre workout i eat 40g of porridge with honey then a whey protein shake after workout. Drink about 2litres of water per day too. Any recommendations?

My diet, help please

dbyrneryan — GMT

Eating in school in easy, eat before school, break, lunch, after school, study break, after study, just bring food in a luch box... Looks like you need alot more protein

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Tommer — GMT

What would you recommend? more tuna, a daily shake? even when im not working out? I cant eat eggs so they are out of the question. Any veggies I could eat that are high in protein? Are there any whey protein powders I can get to take daily for more protein, not just for post workout shakes? Like a relatively cheap holland & barrett brand that I could get and take with one of my meals to get more protein?

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

What would you recommend? more tuna, a daily shake? even when im not working out? I cant eat eggs so they are out of the question. Any veggies I could eat that are high in protein? :shock: Are there any whey protein powders I can get to take daily for more protein, not just for post workout shakes? Like a relatively cheap holland & barrett brand that I could get and take with one of my meals to get more protein?

yeah add in a few 40 gr shakes during the day with nuts...

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Tommer — GMT

cheers for the info! Any brand? doesnt have to be top of the range? Im assuming protein is protein. Im thinking of going to holland and barrett tomorrow and picking up some cheap whey just for adding to my breakfast and stuff like that.

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

cheers for the info! Any brand? doesnt have to be top of the range? Im assuming protein is protein. Im thinking of going to holland and barrett tomorrow and picking up some cheap whey just for adding to my breakfast and stuff like that. :shock: DONT YOU EVER FUCKING SAY THAT! PROTEIN IS NOT JUST PROTEIN! PROTEIN IS THE BE ALL AND END ALL OF MY LIFE AND I WILL HAVE NONE OF YOUR DISRESPECTING IT! DO YOU HEAR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i think you should buy myofusion my gaspari nutrition off UN online or else optimum, phd, iso sensation. Leave out that gay holland and barrett shit...if its good enough for the women you do triceo kick backs with the 2 lb dumbells then it most certainly IS NOT suitable for YOU! :evil:

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Tommer — GMT

That stuff is very pricey though! I have a good bit of promax left that im using post workout. Could I not just get the cheaper brands for boosting protein intake during meals?

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

That stuff is very pricey though! I have a good bit of promax left that im using post workout. Could I not just get the cheaper brands for boosting protein intake during meals?

Youll have to bite the bullet like every other trainer in secondary school...find a way to pay for your food. When you get to college it will be so much easier!

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Tommer — GMT

added it all up i think: Porridge with scoop of whey: 22.4g nuts at breaktime: only about 6-7g? Pasta with tuna for lunch: about 37.5g? or just pasta with a shake chicken breast at dinner: 30g? (Usually have 2 if they are there) + veggies or steak for dinner: 40g per 225g steak + veggies so usually getting about 117g of protein per day, Im going to start having whey shakes for when I dont have any tuna in the house and stuff like that. Hows it sound? too little?

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

added it all up i think: Porridge with scoop of whey: 22.4g nuts at breaktime: only about 6-7g? Pasta with tuna for lunch: about 37.5g? or just pasta with a shake chicken breast at dinner: 30g? (Usually have 2 if they are there) + veggies or steak for dinner: 40g per 225g steak + veggies so usually getting about 117g of protein per day, Im going to start having whey shakes for when I dont have any tuna in the house and stuff like that. Hows it sound? too little?

WEll seeing as i have that in 2 meals alone yes! LOL!!!!!!! I was havin more than 117 gr of protein when i was in a coma for 2 years. Up it to 160 with lots of carbs and youre good...what you weigh?

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Tommer — GMT

about 70kg. Should I add another shake somewhere during the day?

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

about 70kg. Should I add another shake somewhere during the day?

or 4! I dont weigh much more than you! but i get in 240 gr protein 300-400 gr carbs and 100 gr fat a day in... If you have a job spend all your money on food!

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Tommer — GMT

how many shakes is too many? Ive had 3 today now: 1 mixed in with my porridge, 1 at lunch instead of a tin of tuna 1 now after workout. Is there any risks to kidneys/liver of taking too many shakes? Plan on having 2 a day for normal non workout days. only 1 if i have proper high protein foods in my house to replace the shake. Cheers

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

how many shakes is too many? Ive had 3 today now: 1 mixed in with my porridge, 1 at lunch instead of a tin of tuna 1 now after workout. Is there any risks to kidneys/liver of taking too many shakes? Plan on having 2 a day for normal non workout days. only 1 if i have proper high protein foods in my house to replace the shake. Cheers

Well whey protein is very bio available. Ill sometimes just have that with a bowl of pasta and some olive oile. Dont have more than 4 shakes a day but try to get in your chicken, red meat, fish, eggs every day. Eat green vegetables as well even when your bulking to aid nutrient absorption and benefit overall health. Also you sound like a bit of a gay, As if youre scared of protein shakes...

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Tommer — GMT

anabolic1 wrote:

Tommer wrote:

how many shakes is too many? Ive had 3 today now: 1 mixed in with my porridge, 1 at lunch instead of a tin of tuna 1 now after workout. Is there any risks to kidneys/liver of taking too many shakes? Plan on having 2 a day for normal non workout days. only 1 if i have proper high protein foods in my house to replace the shake. Cheers
Well whey protein is very bio available. Ill sometimes just have that with a bowl of pasta and some olive oile. Dont have more than 4 shakes a day but try to get in your chicken, red meat, fish, eggs every day. Eat green vegetables as well even when your bulking to aid nutrient absorption and benefit overall health. Also you sound like a bit of a gay, As if youre scared of protein shakes...

haha cheers, i was only wondering! does anyone else get really bad farts from shakes or their diet? Ive been doing filthy ones the past couple of weeks since i started back on whey protein. I googled it and saw some people saying its cause of taking too much protein or cause the protein isnt being absorbed properly.. that true?

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

anabolic1 wrote:

Tommer wrote:

how many shakes is too many? Ive had 3 today now: 1 mixed in with my porridge, 1 at lunch instead of a tin of tuna 1 now after workout. Is there any risks to kidneys/liver of taking too many shakes? Plan on having 2 a day for normal non workout days. only 1 if i have proper high protein foods in my house to replace the shake. Cheers
Well whey protein is very bio available. Ill sometimes just have that with a bowl of pasta and some olive oile. Dont have more than 4 shakes a day but try to get in your chicken, red meat, fish, eggs every day. Eat green vegetables as well even when your bulking to aid nutrient absorption and benefit overall health. Also you sound like a bit of a gay, As if youre scared of protein shakes...
haha cheers, i was only wondering! does anyone else get really bad farts from shakes or their diet? Ive been doing filthy ones the past couple of weeks since i started back on whey protein. I googled it and saw some people saying its cause of taking too much protein or cause the protein isnt being absorbed properly.. that true?

Thats cuz ya didnt eat ya vegetables!

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Tommer — GMT

Ah grand i see! Eat more from now on so. Cheers anabolic1

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Tommer — GMT

added it all up and im getting about 250g of carbs per day too, is that too high?

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dbyrneryan — GMT

Tommer, whats are your goals? are you looking to cut bodyfat, maintain, bulk up?...

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Tommer — GMT

lost a tiny bit more fat and then get bigger. Ive seen both results since i started eating this way and working out about a month ago, should I carry on the way i am?

My diet, help please

dbyrneryan — GMT

Pick a goal, do one or the other, fat lose, or bulk up...

My diet, help please

anabolic1 — GMT

...or gear :-)

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Tommer — GMT

Another question, Got a tub of whey protein to go through and was looking into starting creatine. Do you think it would be useful or useless to me based on my diet above? I was thinking of a small tub of creatine to add to my whey protein for the moment until its finished then getting an all-in-one whey&creatine like Maximuscle Cyclone or Creatamax or BSN Cellmass and taking it the same as I am with my Whey at the moment (one at breakfast and one after workout) What you think?

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ck — GMT

I don't think u need it. It would not do you any real harm if u do use creatine but i feel that for u it is at the moment un necessary. U are starting off so i think a basic whey protein and a good clean diet in addition to a well structured training program will be all u need to get results. As u progress with ur training and start pushing ur body harder u will then benefit from products such as a creatine to aid recovery etc. but for the moment.... no

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Tommer — GMT

definate no? I go to the gym 5 times a week, train arms/chest, back/legs, and core on different days. I dont really eat that much red meat (heard its a natural source of creatine) so could I take it? or would it just be wasteful? A mate of mine is on BSN Cellmass for a while now, he does less than I do and it has worked for him. Really starting to push it now trying to get there for summer.. Cheers

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ck — GMT

when u say it has worked for ur mate... wha do u mean? don't worry about the red meat thing, u would need to be eating 5kilos of the stuff to get what u need in terms of creatine. But i would suggest one red meat meal a day. personally i think u don't need it, but if u want... go for it.

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Tommer — GMT

Cheers for the info ck, I wouldnt really say I get even 2 red meat meals a week, have steak for dinner whenever its cooked thats about it! I meant it has bulked him up quite a bit by going on it, he isnt on any sort of diet either and doesnt work out as often. Guessing alot of its down to people being different though? Would you recommend even a trial period of it for me, to see if it has any effects? how long until results can be seen from it?

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Eagle16 — GMT

yes! you have got it everyone is different, we all have different, genetics, metabolisms, gains. We all experience different things while lifting, some gain quicker than others, but there is no reason that your mate should be able to do more than you just because he takes Creatine, you get a great diet up and running an he is not following a good diet or not working harder than you, you will come ahead of him in no time man, it all just takes patience!

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ck — GMT

I agree! patience and consistency are key elements in training! And everyone is different... some guys grow well, some lean out well, some are built for endurance and some for strength... genetics... everyone is diff. Having said this no matter what ur genetics u and everyone can still work with their bodies to achieve their goals. On the creatine thing. Not everyone will agree with me here and some scientific evidence agrees with me and some suggests otherwise but imo CREATINE ITS SELF DOES NOT INCREASE SIZE/ STRENGTH/ MASS. I view creatine as a product which aids recovery. When we train we break down our muscles and when we rest/ recover we build them back up (hopefully stronger/ leaner/ bigger than they were before). So if you feel your recovery could be better add creatine to your diet and it will help in an already existing process of recovery. It will not miraculously add 5 or 10lb of muscle to ur frame and it is hard to tell how long you must use it for to notice the difference as the difference will not strictly speaking be visible.

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Tommer — GMT

Yeah Ive been reading about creatine for a few weeks now, I know its not a miracle supplement, It helps replenish ATP in the muscles quicker leading to quicker recovery and the ability to do 1 or 2 more reps and thats what the muscle growth comes from right? Thanks lads for all the help, was a bit confused alright. Properly weighed myself today and im actually 64kg not 70 if that makes much of a difference to my diet and workout routine?

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Tommer — GMT

Ok I looked at my typical daily diet using the meal planner at http://www.maximuscle.ie/toolsanddownloads/dailymealplanner.html Heres what it looks like, Keep in Mind that on training days add an extra 30g whey shake to this post workout: Breakfast: Honey 5g Promax (per 100g) 30g (24.3g protein) Oats, made with milk 45g Total: 4.5g fat, 33.1g carbs, 29.9g protein Snack 1: Oranges 160g Apples, eating, average, raw 150g Nutri Grain bar 37g Almonds 20g Total: 14.6g fat, 57.5g carbs, 8.1g protein Lunch: Pasta, wholemeal 60g Pasta sauce, tomato based 113g Tuna, canned in brine, drained 130g Brown bread, average 15g Cheese, Cheddar 25g Total: 12.6g fat, 52.2g carbs, 48g protein Snack 2: Promax (per 100g) 30g Apples, eating, average, raw 120g Total: 14.2g carbs Dinner: (varys from day to day steak/pork etc some days/ different veggies) Potato (baked with skin) 100g Peas, boiled in unsalted water 80g Broccoli, green, boiled in unsalted water 50g Chicken, breast, grilled without skin, meat only 283g Total: 8.1g fat, 25.8g carbs, 99.7g protein TOTAL: 40.3g Fat, 182.3g Carbs, 186.2g protein Some days ill eat a hardboiled egg here and there or a few tables spoons of peanut butter Was thinking of switching to syntha 6 after my promax is finished but am unsure because it has more carbs/fat in it while promax only has protein really, what you think? Thanks

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ck — GMT

Man i mean this is the nicest way possible..... that diet is not good mate. I mean it's great if u just want to be a healthy regular bloke. But if u want a lean muscular body that won't do. It's great to c u learning tho and not just asking someone to do the work for u. Snack 1 is not good, i'm not a big fan of using a lot of fruit in a diet and also only 8g of pro.... Dinner is 70g pro not 99, but that is in a way a waste because u only really can digest 30 - 40g of pro in a sitting, the rest i'm afraid is wasted. This is why meal frequency is essential and a good portion of pro in every meal. For u i would recommend 7 meals. 35g pro in each, 50g of carbs in 3 or 4 of the meals and eat 20 almonds with the protein in 2 of the no carb meals. 245 pro, 150 - 200 carb, 40 ish fat...... perfect!!!

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Tommer — GMT

Yeah the snacks are the ones I have the most trouble with as im in school for them, fruit is easy to bring in and it would be hard to bring in 2 shakes instead. Any ideas to what I should be eating instead? Was thinking maybe: Snack 1: Almonds 20g 2 hardboiled eggs and something else to keep me full? Snack 2: The same as snack 1? no real ideas :? I dont really want to be taking loads of protein shakes per day, think 2 max a day. Maybe an extra one on days that i run out of tuna and stuff like that! Is bread a complete no? Id be eating wholemeal bread of course maybe with peanut butter on it, to be honest im not trying to get absolutely huge or anything, im trying to increase mass a bit more so its a bit more noticable and to keep body fat down to a minimum too if its possible? or is it either bulk or cut, one or the other?

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ck — GMT

Tommer wrote:

I dont really want to be taking loads of protein shakes per day, think 2 max a day. Is bread a complete no? Id be eating wholemeal bread of course.

Why not the shakes?? I really wouldn't recamend more than 3 either so just eat the meals, 5oz of chicken can be eaten in 5 mins on the go or on break. they don't all have to be sit down meals. once it's 100% wholemeal it's not too bad

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ck — GMT

7 meals -- drink the pro for 3, then one is breakfast and u'v only to eat 3 more. easy

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Tommer — GMT

ck wrote:

7 meals -- drink the pro for 3, then one is breakfast and u'v only to eat 3 more. easy

When you put it like that it does sound easy alright, The only thing stopping me from loads of shakes is the cost! What type of shake would you recommend? one that has all 3 (carbs,protein,fat) like syntha 6 or stick with whey shakes of only protein which im currently taking? Cheers man for the replies

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ck — GMT

Tommer wrote:

Cheers man for the replies

no probs. i would stick with the pro only shakes. in my opinion keep carbs and fats in different meals. so have ur 3 pro and carb meals and ur 2 pro and fat meals and then 2 pro only meals. Have the carbs in breakfast and pre and post workout only. Then the fats in 2 different meals and in an ideal world ur last 2 are pro only with the shakes i find optimum nutrition the best.

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Tommer — GMT

Cool Ill start having a shake more so for a snack, On my current diet would i see any gains at all even a few lbs or anything? As I said before Im trying to get there for summer really so just looking for a bit of a mass gain/get more lean. Once the Leaving is done though I plan to get the diet on the head and bulk up more!

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ck — GMT

yeah if u train hard u will see improvements for sure. Absolutely u are right to prioritise the leaving but it is worth mentioning that there will always be something.... exams, work, family commitments, etc etc. so the key is to find a way where ur eating and training is not a burden but just part of ur daily routine. Enjoy the healthy food anyway and best of luck with the training

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Tommer — GMT

Grand thanks ck for the info, Going to drop the simple carbs in my snacks for more protein like eggs and shakes I think and see what results I get, not expecting a huge result but a bit of a mass gain would be great! Cheers

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anabolic1 — GMT

ck wrote:

yeah if u train hard u will see improvements for sure. Absolutely u are right to prioritise the leaving but it is worth mentioning that there will always be something.... exams, work, family commitments, etc etc. so the key is to find a way where ur eating and training is not a burden but just part of ur daily routine. Enjoy the healthy food anyway and best of luck with the training

Lol i cut seriously coming up to the leaving cert. I was cutting through it as well and never missed a meal during the tests!

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Tommer — GMT

Just one more quick question, for snack one would 20g almonds, a hardboiled egg and a nutrigrain bar be too much fat for one meal?

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

Just one more quick question, for snack one would 20g almonds, a hardboiled egg and a nutrigrain bar be too much fat for one meal?

no? but whats with the nutrigrain bar? I had 500 gr of salmon in the space of 5 hours the other day...

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

Just one more quick question, for snack one would 20g almonds, a hardboiled egg and a nutrigrain bar be too much fat for one meal?

no? but whats with the nutrigrain bar? I had 500 gr of salmon in the space of 5 hours the other day...

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Tommer — GMT

Ive made a few changes to my diet this week as I want to start to get bigger. Have a look and tell me what you think: Breakfast: 45g porridge with honey and a protein shake(made with low fat milk) Snack 1: 2 egg whites, 75g wholewheat pasta, 25g almonds Lunch: Protein shake, about 120g wholewheat pasta, slice of wholegrain bread with peanut butter Snack 2: tin of tuna with onion and light mayo on a bagle Dinner: what ever is cooked in the house, usually around 2 small baked potatoes, frozen veg and meat (depending on what it is, usually have 2 of what ever, eg. 2 bugers, 2chickenbreast) Postworkout: Protein shake and carbs like cereal (100g) or cream crackers (4-5 crackers) Whats it look like? I want to get bigger (not huge) but I dont want to put on a load of bodyfat either, Dont mind a bit that I can lose. Cheers

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Tommer — GMT

Anyone?

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

Ive made a few changes to my diet this week as I want to start to get bigger. Have a look and tell me what you think: Breakfast: 100g porridge with honey and a protein shake(made with low fat milk) Snack 1: 2 eggs 4 egg whites, 75g wholewheat pasta, 25g almonds Lunch: Protein shake, about 120g wholewheat pasta, slice of wholegrain bread with peanut butter GET RID OF THIS Snack 2: tin of tuna with onion and light mayo on a bagle GET RID OF THIS Dinner: what ever is cooked in the house, usually around 2 small baked potatoes, frozen veg and meat (depending on what it is, usually have 2 of what ever, eg. 2 bugers, 2chickenbreast) Postworkout: Protein shake and carbs like cereal (100g) or cream crackers (4-5 crackers) GET RID OF THIS Whats it look like? I want to get bigger (not huge) but I dont want to put on a load of bodyfat either, Dont mind a bit that I can lose. Cheers

Oh whoops sorry i thought this was a cut diet! Yeah this is not a bulk. This is an insult is what it is.

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Tommer — GMT

Cheers for the reply, What should I eat post workout then? Thought you need simple carbs to burn off to help protein absorbtion and to stop you body going catabolic? Do I not need carbs to keep my body anabolic? Thats why I was having tuna on a bagle and the crackers postworkout How many grams of carbs should get per day?

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

Cheers for the reply, What should I eat post workout then? Thought you need simple carbs to burn off to help protein absorbtion and to stop you body going catabolic? Do I not need carbs to keep my body anabolic? Thats why I was having tuna on a bagle and the crackers postworkout How many grams of carbs should get per day?

Well actually you would be correct there for bulking i just didnt want to edit my comment cuz i was in a big rush out the house. Eh yeah have a monster energy drink pwo with 1 scoop protein or 1.5 scoops... Eh you really just need to up your game calorie wise if you ware to make any noticeable and efficient progress. You wont get fat...your waist will probs push out in size but that just helps with the big movements :-) Liquid high g.i carbs would be preferable to cereal or crackers for quicker absorption...

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Tommer — GMT

Eh you really just need to up your game calorie wise if you ware to make any noticeable and efficient progress.

So can I leave the bagle and stuff in and continue with the diet I posted? (adding more eggs to snack1 for protein) or should I drop the bagle and stuff and just eat more porridge at breakfast instead? What sort of amount of carbs should I aim for, im going by ck's advise of about 245 protein, 150 - 200 carb, around 40 fat Cheers for the info mate, finding it hard to get the diet bang on the head!

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

Eh you really just need to up your game calorie wise if you ware to make any noticeable and efficient progress.
So can I leave the bagle and stuff in and continue with the diet I posted? (adding more eggs to snack1 for protein) or should I drop the bagle and stuff and just eat more porridge at breakfast instead? What sort of amount of carbs should I aim for, im going by ck's advise of about 245 protein, 150 - 200 carb, around 40 fat Cheers for the info mate, finding it hard to get the diet bang on the head!

Well I mean why dont you just have a protein shake real quick with breakfast in the morning? You are busy with school i assume yeah? 1) porridge/ protein/ fruit/honey thrown in with porridge 2) chicken sandwiches and peanut butter or nuts 3) protein shake and fruit and nuts 4) steak and vadge and pasta * Have more carbs obviously when you are hungry on training days and throw in an extra bowl or 2 of porridge at night and get your tuna or other protein sources in for another 2 meals at night. Cheat with double cheeseburgers twice a week or just have a whole cheat day :-) you will not want a cheat day when bulking so its always nice i find to opt for the mcdonalds twice a week at the start of a bulk before the fat starts to come on. When you are into the bulk for a month or 2 you will wnat to just clean it up again before cutting.

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Tommer — GMT

I do have a shake with breakfast! Have 1 with breakfast, 1 with lunch and 1 postworkout. Cheating isnt really a problem for me for some reason! Most I do is pints at the weekend which is even limited now cause its so close to the leaving, So could I do maybe this: Breakfast: 60g porridge with honey and a protein shake made with milk (100g would be too much that early I think, and porridge is starting to get sickening!) Snack 1: 4-5 egg whites, 75g wholewheat pasta, 25g almonds Lunch: 120g Whole wheat pasta and a shake Snack 2: tin of tuna with onion + light mayo (bagle maybe? is it too much?) Dinner: same as earlier, whatevers on offer at home Postworkout: Shake, some form of simple carbs (banana/sports drink or something?) Thinking of cellmass too not sure on it though yet, probably in summer

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

I do have a shake with breakfast! Have 1 with breakfast, 1 with lunch and 1 postworkout. Cheating isnt really a problem for me for some reason! Most I do is pints at the weekend which is even limited now cause its so close to the leaving, So could I do maybe this: Breakfast: 60g porridge with honey and a protein shake made with milk (100g would be too much that early I think, and porridge is starting to get sickening!) Snack 1: 4-5 egg whites, 75g wholewheat pasta, 25g almonds Lunch: 120g Whole wheat pasta and a shake Snack 2: tin of tuna with onion + light mayo (bagle maybe? is it too much?) Dinner: same as earlier, whatevers on offer at home Postworkout: Shake, some form of simple carbs (banana/sports drink or something?) Thinking of cellmass too not sure on it though yet, probably in summer

Pints dont aid with muscle gain. Double cheeseburgers do. I had 4 last night and it worked out at 3200 kcal.

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Tommer — GMT

grand ill keep that in mind! Hows that diet plan looking though?

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anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

I do have a shake with breakfast! Have 1 with breakfast, 1 with lunch and 1 postworkout. Cheating isnt really a problem for me for some reason! Most I do is pints at the weekend which is even limited now cause its so close to the leaving, So could I do maybe this: Breakfast: 60g porridge with honey and a protein shake made with milk (100g would be too much that early I think, and porridge is starting to get sickening!) 100 gr porridge mutherfucker! Snack 1: 4-5 egg whites, 75g wholewheat pasta, 25g almonds good Lunch: 120g Whole wheat pasta and a shake good Snack 2: tin of tuna with onion + light mayo (bagle maybe? is it too much?) grand Dinner: same as earlier, whatevers on offer at home yeah Postworkout: Shake, some form of simple carbs (banana/sports drink or something?) yeah Thinking of cellmass too not sure on it though yet, probably in summer

Still try and increase them fucking calories!

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Tommer — GMT

Im Trying! What food source is best? more carbs? more protein? :shock:

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ck — GMT

hi I think before u change anything u need to decide what it is u want to do. The only way to get bigger that it is noticeable in the mirror on a weekly basis is to gain a substansial amount of fat. If this is what u do want to do then u need to increase kcal. If you want to improve overall shape and structure stick with what u have and train hard and lift heavy weight. What would i recommend?? For sure i would say to anyone less experienced than me to keep the diet solid year round, keep the body fat low also! By doing this you will increase hardness, muscularity, and vascularity and will expierance modest gains but they will be real solid muscle! I however have not done this and have bulked and cut over the past few years whilst training 'seriously' and i do not recommend it. If i could turn back the clock a few months i would have not bulked to such an extent this off season. And in the future i will be staying tight all year.... no doubt! i have learnt from my mistakes! Also once u are lean for a long time ur body will allow u to eat more and not gain fat! Having said all this i feel u can defo improve the diet but see no reason for u to eat excessively. also i don't recommend cheese burgers for anythin other than a tasty treat which is of course fine once a week, i am happy to outline a diet i would eat if i were u, if u'd like but no time right now.... gotta go eat and train :-o :-o

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Tommer — GMT

ck wrote:

hi If you want to improve overall shape and structure stick with what u have and train hard and lift heavy weight. What would i recommend?? For sure i would say to anyone less experienced than me to keep the diet solid year round, keep the body fat low also! By doing this you will increase hardness, muscularity, and vascularity and will expierance modest gains but they will be real solid muscle!

Thats it exactly! I dont want a hugh bulk at all, id like to stay relatively around the BF I am now but increase mass a bit more steadily over a few months. At least do that for summer, dont want to be packing on a load of fat for the summer! Do you think the diet there I posted would be ok for doing that ck? any changes I should make to it? Using that meal planner on Maximuscle I added it up and it says im getting about 2270 cals per day, 242g protein 227g carbs and 46g fat Would I see gains off that or should I up it some more? if so how can I do that while minimising fat gain? Cheers

Re:My diet, help please

anabolic1 — GMT

I dunno i guess its my metabolism and hard training that allows me to eat so much cheeseburgers. I definitely gained better size and strength from dirtying up my bulk diets.

Re:My diet, help please

Tommer — GMT

What you think of the diet ck, is it ok for what Im aiming for?

Re:My diet, help please

ck — GMT

I think it is not focused enough around when u need the food, i.e breakfast and pre and post workout.... this is really in reference to the carbs. so imo u should eat 6 meals. 40g protein in them all from shakes, egg whites, chicken, turkey, steak. 75g carbs at breakfast from oats. 50g carbs pre workout from brown rice or oats or sweet potato 75g carbs post workout from sports drinks or cereal then 20 almonds twice a day in the non carb meals last meal before bed should be pro only and plenty of green veg and water!! This is just my opinion but there are many different ways of eating for success... but this is mine.

Re:My diet, help please

Tommer — GMT

Nice one for the reply, Ill keep that in mind and rework the times of the meals and carb intake etc, more egg whites so to boost protein intake! Thanks again

Re:My diet, help please

anabolic1 — GMT

ck wrote:

I think it is not focused enough around when u need the food, i.e breakfast and pre and post workout.... this is really in reference to the carbs. so imo u should eat 6 meals. 40g protein in them all from shakes, egg whites, chicken, turkey, steak. 75g carbs at breakfast from oats. 50g carbs pre workout from brown rice or oats or sweet potato 75g carbs post workout from sports drinks or cereal then 20 almonds twice a day in the non carb meals last meal before bed should be pro only and plenty of green veg and water!! This is just my opinion but there are many different ways of eating for success... but this is mine.

too much protein. The guy weighs 140 is it?

Re:My diet, help please

Tommer — GMT

yeh 65 kg so 143pounds, been getting about 20-25g per meal that enough?

Re:My diet, help please

anabolic1 — GMT

Tommer wrote:

yeh 65 kg so 143pounds, been getting about 20-25g per meal that enough?

yeah maybe a little bit more but yeah

Re:My diet, help please

ck — GMT

ck wrote:

This is just my opinion but there are many different ways of eating for success... but this is mine.

As i said that is my way..... opinions will differ. i eat a high protein diet