Universal Nutrition Forum

cill wrote:

I am curious tho alex why u actually care if its lbs or kgs. They're just numbers. For all everyone knows I could be lying bout how much weight I lift but whatd be the point in that. This log is for me to track my progress. If I was lying bout how much I lift this log would be a total waste of time

I agree.

Rubbish comment by alex.

Cill any chance u could post up your diet with the weight of foods etc?

M 16

cause cills mate everyone makes mistakes and alot of my freinds have misinterpreted the cable cross for kg while its actually pounds. Dont take offence im just saying personally id want to know what im actually lifting rather than "just a number"

alright lads didn mean to start a feud i obviously ament getting my point across i just thought cill made a common mistake ill drop the tricep pushdown negativity. Cill if you are doing that weight im really impressed good work man

alex dont take me the wrong way i didnt take any offence to your comment
as i said im tracking my progress for me. i obviously know the machine pushdowns dont weigh 80kg its just what it says so thats what i write up. i dont weigh 80kg so i would have to be wedged under somethin to try and move that weight. cheers tho for pointin it out if i had made a mistake

m16
ye no prob just gimme a few mins this could take some time

Cheeers man, much apreciated.

M 16

high carb days(legs,back)
375g carbs 180g protein 0g fats(prob bout 15g by accident)

mod carb days(bodyweight days,chest day)
-250g carbs 190g protein 20g fats(last meal)

low carb days(cardio days) carbs 100g protein 240g fats 85g

high days
i have 75g carbs per meal except last 1 just protein
i have 30g protein per meal
no direct fats on high carb days

mod days
i have 50g carbs per meal
i have 30g protein first 5 meals last meal 40g protein
i have 15-20g fat with last meal

low days
i have 2 meals of 50g carbs(bfast,after cardio)
i have 30g protein with carb meals,45g protein with fat meals
i have bout 20g fat per meal without carbs

is that what u were lookin for or the actual weights of the foods i eat eg 200g chicken=45-50g protein

Ahhhh cool well thats fair enough , im just ment to be big genetic wise like i cut DOWN to 17 stone like im like 130kg at the moment like 21ish stone , i've always been a big guy like even if i didnt have fat to make me seem bigger , my bone structure is big like seriously broad shoulders.And yeah your stats on lifts are fairly solid for such a light guy but you'd have to take into account using creatine for that too since that does affect strenght and depending on how you eat aswell you know.

I doubt id go on much of those supplements myself to be honest but thats mean I mean if i feel a bit sluggish il have my green tea and I doubt id need aminos if im eating so much meat but i could be wrong.Im actually considering going on creatine after my cut , but not to bulk since once i get fairly cut im going into pure strenght training , I really don't want anymore size.

oh and about the final meal being just protein , should throw in some fats like fish oil or peanut butter , just for your body like more fat the better for joints and your heart afterall , could probably make the meal a lil more enjoyable too.

i dont have fats on high carb days, was told this by venom.
ah man creatine does very little for strength i advocate my strength down to my diet and discipline. iv always bin stronger than i look, even when doin the triathlon at 9.5 stone i was still fairly strong. and i wasnt even taking protein at that point

i love the green teea myself, drink bout 5 cups a day(no particular reason just like it)

21 stone, fuck me what are your lifts like?

well It might sound like im trying to opt out but ive never actually gone for one rep maxs or been strenght training even during the summer i wasnt totally clever as for training and nutrition , ive only learned since ive been injured.ANd during the summer I only did upperbody training due to a back injury but yeah il stop making excuses.
I can tell you last year in fifth year for rugby training I used to do 140 kg squats for 10 reps for 3-4 sets , bench of four sets going from 4 reps to 1 rep for the final lift and started at 100 to 120 and for rdls I did 90kg and shoulder pressed like 22.5s dumbbells for 10 reps never tried one rep max.Oh and lat pulldowns I can do like 120-140ish (cant remember) for one rep without using weight. dont know if thats decent like but meh

theyre very impressive man very strong. but like you said ur meant to be big and strong

we,ll I dont know but im a prop forward through and through so i guess its decent for my size , but you're stronger in shoulders and in the back than me I say or else im just not pushing myself

Thats great man, but yea if u could would you let us know the food exactly?

The ratios seem spot on, so u have been able to keep the fat low with it so far?

M 16

shoulders have always bin pretty strong for me. last bulk i was doin 28s for 6 reps, and i wasnt taking any "creatine"

id say u can do well more than that just give it a try

Yeah true and up my deadlift too since my back is better now , just need to sort out my inner quads so my kneecaps are being pulled out of place and my dodgey right shoulder , once im able to train balls to the wall I don't know how glad il be im so fed up of not being able to train.

M 16 wrote:

Thats great man, but yea if u could would you let us know the food exactly?

The ratios seem spot on, so u have been able to keep the fat low with it so far?

M 16

ye man havent really gained any fat at all, just strength

right give us a mo ill edit this post

EDIT:

carb sources are:
sweet potatoe(17g carbs per 100g)
muesli (kelkin)(60g carbs per 100g)
white potatoe(pwo)(17g carbs per 100g)
granery bread(48g carbs per 100g)
wholemeal pittas(50g carbs per 100g)
whole wheat pasta(60g carbs per 100g)
whole wheat wraps(usually like 30g carbs per wrap)

protein sources:
chicken (25g protein per 100g)
steak(same)
mince(22g protein per 100g)
fish(usually 20g per 100g)
whey(says on tub)

fat sources:
red meat(varies)
olive oil(100g fat per 100g)
nuts(pretty much every nut is around the 50g fat mark per 100g)

this is pretty much what i eat. i just use a calculator to find out how much meat for example i need to get me 30g protein etc

hope this helps