Universal Nutrition Forum

Tommer wrote:

anabolic1 wrote:

Tommer wrote:

how many shakes is too many?

Ive had 3 today now:
1 mixed in with my porridge,
1 at lunch instead of a tin of tuna
1 now after workout.

Is there any risks to kidneys/liver of taking too many shakes?

Plan on having 2 a day for normal non workout days.
only 1 if i have proper high protein foods in my house to replace the shake.

Cheers

Well whey protein is very bio available. Ill sometimes just have that with a bowl of pasta and some olive oile. Dont have more than 4 shakes a day but try to get in your chicken, red meat, fish, eggs every day. Eat green vegetables as well even when your bulking to aid nutrient absorption and benefit overall health.

Also you sound like a bit of a gay, As if youre scared of protein shakes...

haha cheers, i was only wondering!

does anyone else get really bad farts from shakes or their diet?
Ive been doing filthy ones the past couple of weeks since i started back on whey protein. I googled it and saw some people saying its cause of taking too much protein or cause the protein isnt being absorbed properly.. that true?

Thats cuz ya didnt eat ya vegetables!

Ah grand i see!
Eat more from now on so.
Cheers anabolic1

added it all up and im getting about 250g of carbs per day too, is that too high?

Tommer, whats are your goals? are you looking to cut bodyfat, maintain, bulk up?...

lost a tiny bit more fat and then get bigger.
Ive seen both results since i started eating this way and working out about a month ago, should I carry on the way i am?

Pick a goal, do one or the other, fat lose, or bulk up...

...or gear

Another question,

Got a tub of whey protein to go through and was looking into starting creatine.

Do you think it would be useful or useless to me based on my diet above?

I was thinking of a small tub of creatine to add to my whey protein for the moment until its finished then getting an all-in-one whey&creatine like Maximuscle Cyclone or Creatamax or BSN Cellmass and taking it the same as I am with my Whey at the moment (one at breakfast and one after workout)

What you think?

I don't think u need it. It would not do you any real harm if u do use creatine but i feel that for u it is at the moment un necessary.

U are starting off so i think a basic whey protein and a good clean diet in addition to a well structured training program will be all u need to get results.

As u progress with ur training and start pushing ur body harder u will then benefit from products such as a creatine to aid recovery etc. but for the moment.... no

definate no?

I go to the gym 5 times a week, train arms/chest, back/legs, and core on different days. I dont really eat that much red meat (heard its a natural source of creatine) so could I take it? or would it just be wasteful?

A mate of mine is on BSN Cellmass for a while now, he does less than I do and it has worked for him.

Really starting to push it now trying to get there for summer..

Cheers

when u say it has worked for ur mate... wha do u mean?

don't worry about the red meat thing, u would need to be eating 5kilos of the stuff to get what u need in terms of creatine. But i would suggest one red meat meal a day.

personally i think u don't need it, but if u want... go for it.

Cheers for the info ck,
I wouldnt really say I get even 2 red meat meals a week, have steak for dinner whenever its cooked thats about it!

I meant it has bulked him up quite a bit by going on it, he isnt on any sort of diet either and doesnt work out as often. Guessing alot of its down to people being different though?
Would you recommend even a trial period of it for me, to see if it has any effects? how long until results can be seen from it?

yes! you have got it everyone is different, we all have different, genetics, metabolisms, gains. We all experience different things while lifting, some gain quicker than others, but there is no reason that your mate should be able to do more than you just because he takes Creatine, you get a great diet up and running an he is not following a good diet or not working harder than you, you will come ahead of him in no time man, it all just takes patience!

I agree! patience and consistency are key elements in training! And everyone is different... some guys grow well, some lean out well, some are built for endurance and some for strength... genetics... everyone is diff. Having said this no matter what ur genetics u and everyone can still work with their bodies to achieve their goals.

On the creatine thing. Not everyone will agree with me here and some scientific evidence agrees with me and some suggests otherwise but imo CREATINE ITS SELF DOES NOT INCREASE SIZE/ STRENGTH/ MASS. I view creatine as a product which aids recovery.

When we train we break down our muscles and when we rest/ recover we build them back up (hopefully stronger/ leaner/ bigger than they were before). So if you feel your recovery could be better add creatine to your diet and it will help in an already existing process of recovery.

It will not miraculously add 5 or 10lb of muscle to ur frame and it is hard to tell how long you must use it for to notice the difference as the difference will not strictly speaking be visible.

Yeah Ive been reading about creatine for a few weeks now, I know its not a miracle supplement, It helps replenish ATP in the muscles quicker leading to quicker recovery and the ability to do 1 or 2 more reps and thats what the muscle growth comes from right?
Thanks lads for all the help, was a bit confused alright.

Properly weighed myself today and im actually 64kg not 70 if that makes much of a difference to my diet and workout routine?