Universal Nutrition Forum

Seeing as there is so much hype online.....
Was just wondering if anyone had tried a cycle of this and what their results were? Also how did it compare to any other products?

im using it at the moment, to early to say ill let you know when they kick in.

ye you were saying that when I was in the other day. be great to know how the cycle goes cheers

Placebo. It might do something.. but whatever it does will be nominal. Thats the beautiful thing about placebos. Supplements undoubtedly have their place in training nutrition.. but test boosters? Seriously? How are you going to measure your testosterone production? How do you know you just werent training hard enough before you bought the fancy tablets?

I dont know why anyone puts so much faith in tribulus etc. 'Jaysus I was on the horn 24/7 taking those' etc etc etc.

Followed usually by... 'a fella I know got some bulgarian test boosters' yadda yadda yadda.

Spend 40euro on beef, milk and chicken, guaranteed better results. Also, Its hardly a 'cycle'. You're not taking steroids. Thats like saying I'm doing a cycle of vitamin C.

KieranFromRaw wrote:

Placebo. It might do something.. but whatever it does will be nominal. Thats the beautiful thing about placebos. Supplements undoubtedly have their place in training nutrition.. but test boosters? Seriously? How are you going to measure your testosterone production? How do you know you just werent training hard enough before you bought the fancy tablets?

I dont know why anyone puts so much faith in tribulus etc. 'Jaysus I was on the horn 24/7 taking those' etc etc etc.

Followed usually by... 'a fella I know got some bulgarian test boosters' yadda yadda yadda.

Spend 40euro on beef, milk and chicken, guaranteed better results. Also, Its hardly a 'cycle'. You're not taking steroids. Thats like saying I'm doing a cycle of vitamin C.

Any supplement that can not be taken indefinitely can not contribute towards long term muscle gains. Even if you do gear for a few months and go off for a few years...you will end up the same size you would have become naturally anyway.

Test boosters are marketed towards newbs and blackrock college 4th years who need the latest fix.

Why bother.....for E60 you could get real test and a bulk pack of chicken breast

I tried a couple of universal test boosters got some results out of M-stack but nothing from the rest

MsclDrew wrote:

Why bother.....for E60 you could get real test and a bulk pack of chicken breast

I tried a couple of universal test boosters got some results out of M-stack but nothing from the rest

Is that the cycle that helped you augment your waist line from a size 42 to a size 44?

Apparently some of the testers before PM was released had blood work done and free test increased significantly. These things are getting popular. People are raving about Bioforge, eBol and Natadrol and stuff like that right now.

Any supplement that can not be taken indefinitely can not contribute towards long term muscle gains. Even if you do gear for a few months and go off for a few years...you will end up the same size you would have become naturally anyway.

Test boosters are marketed towards newbs and blackrock college 4th years who need the latest fix.

Well gear changes muscle physiology permanently (additional nuclei) so you can still end up bigger and remain bigger than you otherwise would have done had you not done gear.

Well gear changes muscle physiology permanently (additional nuclei) so you can still end up bigger and remain bigger than you otherwise would have done had you not done gear.

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anabolic1 wrote:

Im pretty definite you are mistaken here.

Only Growth Hormone injections increase muscle fiber count. Testosterone injections speed up the process of muscle cell expansion.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080925072430.htm

http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/1999/11000/Effects_of_anabolic_steroids_on_the_muscle_cells.6.aspx

Additional nucleii, not muscle fibers.

its easier just to delete

This means i didnt lose the argument lol

What?

Edit: Maybe you don't know as much as I thought you did. This is the second time.

A pile of shit better off eating properly with some zma this shit is like tribulus norateen and all that crap its a marketing scam and cant see it providing alot more gains than whole foood could

Well tribulus was only "proven" by the Bulgarian company who holds the patent to using tribulus for muscle gains / boosting test. Apparently the circumstances of the study were sketchy. These new products have studies and blood tests to back up some of the claims.

I dono bro...I read the ingredients is ther reli such a difference to thes tribulus and all those t boosting products i read ur articles but how correct are the facts mate? would i be right in guessing ur taking some urself? how are u getting on then bro?